What’s my point? Religion is the pathetic efforts of frail humans to project their fears and insecurities on an Almighty God. If God can’t take care of His world, then none of us can. I don’t think He’s out of control yet as some folks seem to imply…

It never occured to me that you were trying to straighten me out…well, I find it amusing when finite minds undertake to define an infinite God in absolute terms and concepts.

It’s arrogance to equate your personal understanding of Scripture with God’s absolute meaning. We know in part… I’m always the first to admit that. Yet, it’s obvious that the inability to appreciate multiple perspectives of spiritual realities is extolled in religion as a virtue…’defending the truth.” lol…

BTW: I don’t HAVE to state my ‘essential doctrinal beliefs’ on my site…though they are clearly stated here for those who have the eyes to see them. I also don’t HAVE the need to put them ‘front and center…’

It’s a mark of low spiritual awareness to try to classify people in terms of pentecostals, evangelicals, orthodox, wof, secret…seems like tribalism to me…the human spirit transcends such dim awareness definitions.

I noticed that you don’t quite believe that People who are in Jesus Christ share His nature and that of the Father. I thought you’d have stayed with the issue.

@Javier… Maybe, you should stay on the subject of this post…”Ye are gods…”, that is, if you have the necessary awareness to fathom the essence of the message… and leave old, worn out, and unnecessary religious bickering…

The thing is, I haven’t found yours stated on your site. Can you point me to them?

Mine are front and center at http://christiansoldiersonline.org

The articles I have taken a look at here seem seem reflective of WoF and elements of ‘the Secret’

IHS,

Bruce

Yet, it’s important for us to understand the new realities that came into existence when Jesus died and resurrected. A new Creation was born. (So Jesus didn’t die in vain. By His death and resurrection, He has bought in a new creation, new realities, and has brought many sons into glory.)

This is not about being equal with God, because there can only be one God – the Father of all. It’s rather about ‘participation’ or ‘sharing’ in the divine nature.

For instance, there is only one father in a house hold, yet it’s a household of ‘humans.’ It’s a matter of nature. The father is human, the mother is human, the children are human. They share in the same nature. The children submit to the authority and leadership of the parents, yet all of them have the human nature. The children are not equal with their father, yet they share in the same nature – the human nature.

In the same way, we have only one Father – the Almighty God. Yet because we are His children, we are partakers of His nature. We are not equal with Him, but we share in His nature – His god nature.

“Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.” 2 Peter 1:4

“But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:” John 1:12

The Father Himself has provided this right for us and now, through faith in Jesus Christ, we are His sons…not His mates, or equals but His sons – partakers of His divine nature (the god nature)

I love your quote from Isaiah.
Yet, that does not apply to those who have ‘the mind of Christ’.
When we walk in the spirit, we have redeemed minds. For instance, “Abraham reasoned that God could raise the dead, and figuratively speaking, he did receive Isaac back from death.” Hebrews 11:18

Jesus applied divine reasoning (the simple logic of a renewed mind) when He said, “Or what man is there of you, whom if his son ask bread, will he give him a stone? Or if he ask a fish, will he give him a serpent? If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask him?” Matthew 7:9-11.

When we receive Jesus Christ and become filled with the Holy Spirit, and as we continue to renew our minds through God’s word, we come into agreement with the Father’s ways… The Isaiah quote applies to people whose minds have not yet come under the redemptive and regenerative power of the Holy Spirit.

Once again, Bruce, I welcome further thoughts from you on this matter. This is a discussion I’m very pleased to engage in… God bless you.

To try and use ‘simple logic’ to fathom God and His Word is like hunting Elephants with a pea shooter.

Isaiah 55:

8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD.

9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.

There is no simple correlation between God -> Son (Jesus) -> Brother (Believers) for Jesus and the Father (and the Holy Spirit) are GOD.

There is one God. Not gods. That was the fatal lie straight from Satan and it is being repeated still – either deliberately or erroneously.

Certainly, if we were created literally in the image of God, with all of His attributes, we would be created perfect and would have no need of salvation, would we?

Did Christ die in vain?

I submit to you that an image is a reflection of a greater Reality, not the reality itself. The created cannot equal the Creator.

There are many teachings going around, brother, and many have gained popularity.

LDS doctrine, for example, teaches that God was a flesh and blood man and achieved Godhood. They also teach that Jesus and Lucifer are Spirit brothers, both creations themselves. I think we would agree that is not sound doctrine, would we not?

And yet, they maintain that men will attain a level or various levels of godhood, based upon their works.

Perhaps I am misunderstanding your article and you are not saying that we are equal to God?

I wish you well and don’t intend to offend, but to edify, perhaps clumsily, but with love and concern for the Truth.

IHS,

Bruce

I hope I do not wear it out!

I do study my Bible well, my brother and I will leave you to ponder Job 41 and 42 and see how we gods measure up.

IHS,

Bruce Macomber